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The Government wants You and Me to Voluntarily Pay for Their Irresponsible Spending!

Posted by devildog6771 on July 18, 2011


Herman Cain

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From Personal Liberty.com comes a story that would make me laugh if it wasn’t so ludicrous. A bunch of Congressmen have introduced a bill, H.R. 2411, called the Reduce America’s Debt Now Act of 2011. The article, Congress Wants Automatic Wage Deductions To Pay Down The Debt, was introduced by a dozen Congressman.

The bill calls for Americans to make voluntary contributions by payroll deductions which their employer sends to the Federal Government to help pay our national debt. The bill also says that the deductions are not tax-deductible. Seriously!

These Congressman are out of touch with reality or totally insensitive to what people are going through now!

Who in their right mind would voluntarily give money to pay off a debt incurred by this President and his socialists/Marxist/Communists Czars and allies in Congress. All they will do is spend it as wastefully as they have spent the rest of our nation’s money for the last two years.

Though our debt gets deeper and deeper, the President and his fellow idealogues continue to demand no cuts to their green programs and countless other programs that are absurd programs in our present economic situation! They also continue to use every scare tactic they can contrive to draw in support for failed measures. For example:

Schumer says, “We don’t have a dime for student loans…, we don’t have money for FBI, we don’t have money for Cancer Research, IRS Refunds, Border Patrol, there would be none of that. If you’re gonna fully pay SS, Medicare, or “truth and interest” on the debt, you don’t have anyone at the border, anyone doing food inspections, anyone in the FAA Towers. America would come to a grinding halt!”

First I have an award In want to bestow on Mr. Schumer. It is called the “Golden Ass Award!”

Now, let me answer Mr. Schumer on some of his points.

My daughter just finished four years of college. She graduated “Cum Laud.” She worked  full-time and went to school full-time for four years. She did get the “Pell Grant” twice. She had no debt when she graduated. She saved every penny earned for school.

My son is doing the same thing. He is half way through. So, don’t worry about student loans Mr. Schumer. However, in his case the Pell grant is no longer available. There are lots of loans available through the government that  would put him in the  government’s clutches. He has chosen to use harder work to pay tuition!

The FBI, well, I seriously doubt you wouldn’t fund the agency responsible for our domestic safety!

I lost the oldest of my younger brothers to incurable cancer in 1971. He was 21. My younger sister died a year ago this past February from incurable brain cancer. She had just turned sixty. But, she actually was lost to us on March 5, 2004 when her son, a decorated police officer, was killed in Kuwait. My mother has had cancer twice. She survived both times. For the survival and welfare of this Republic, Cancer research could be temporarily put on hold.

There is no one I know who wouldn’t love to see the IRS not funded. The IRS is the most relentless government agency in existence. I hate to see all those people go without a salary. But, it won’t upset me to see them unfunded for a while. After all, there is  the TSA! By the way, haven’t tax refunds already gone out?

Border patrols are almost obsolete now that the President has directed ICE to send a memo to all their agencies to effectively not enforce the Constitution, national, state, and local immigration laws.  They can’t arrest the illegals or deport them! The “Dream Act” with a Congressional end run. And there isn’t anyone at the borders anyway.

You have all made sure our Border patrol is over worked, stripped to the bone, and effectively neutered. You have endangered their lives with your illegal gun program. You have prosecuted them for doing their job! So don’t pretend you really care about them.

If food inspection stops then you guys will eat the same food we all eat. Do any of you own your own food processing plant that does it all, veggies, meats, fruits, etc? I didn’t think so. I dare say the average American can survive a lot longer,  safely, and probably eat food a lot more healthy because we provide it for ourselves. Can you all say the same?

As for our safety. We all know that is a joke. You and all your Democratic and RINO supporters refuse to take the terrorists threat seriously. You have stripped the CIA and Military of their ability to do their job.

Seriously, do you want Americans to believe you would shut down the nation’s airports? No even you would be that shortsighted! But, go ahead if you think that would be advisable. We’ll just use other means. However, what about you guys in Congress? Since you all don’t have access to personal jets, hope you like Washington on the weekends!

“America would come to a grinding halt! Congress might. But, heck for two (2) years you Democrats haven’t even been able to do one (1) budget! You want our nation to collapse so you can come in and set up martial law or whatever the set up your Utopian dream government based on failed ideologies.

Boy are you guys in for a shock. Americans may have been complacent for a while. But our spirit will never die. You are trying to enslave a nation of people who would rather fight to the death than be enslaved. We love our freedom. We hate “taxation without representation.”

As for SS, Medicare, or “truth and interest” on the debt, well there is there is no reason these all can’t be paid. We are required by law to have a certain amount of money on hand. The money we have coming in every month is several times more than enough to cover these three items.

Andrew Mullen was appointed to get us out of a severe depression in the early twenties. He did what Herman Cain keeps discussing. He went through every program we had/have and cut each program as much as possible at percentages based on each programs real needs. Duplications and poor management were fixed or dropped.

He found after going through everything we spent money on and looking at the trend of revenues coming in that “increasing taxes”  caused a dramatic reduction of incoming revenue because business, industry, and people started tightening the belt. This pattern was clear after every single “tax increase!” After evaluating all his information and studying past trends he concluded that possible “tax reduction” might be the right way to go.

The results were amazing. Big businesses started making money. As a result they expanded and hired more and more people. Jobs were created across the board. The lower and middle class began to experience their own prosperity. Their standard of living dramatically increased. The entire nation began to thrive. Go back and research for yourself. Then take a good look at who was in charge before and after this dramatic time of prosperity and see what or who destroyed it!

I know you think that now that you are pressuring the middle class from the top and stirring up the lower classes from the bottom you only have the middle class to incite. But, you are in for a shock. If you continue on your destructive path for America there will be a rising up of the people like none ever seen before.

It won’t be all white, middle class. It will be “all” American citizens, Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, and every other citizens group in America. You will see a united effort like none ever seen. We are like brothers and sisters. We fight and bicker among ourselves. But, you mess with one of us, you mess with us all.

So, bring it on! Make sure you bring old George Soros with you. Let him lead the vanguard. When it is all over, we will send him packing after we take away the U.S. Citizenship he has squandered.  I suggest the rest of you either get on board and stop your seditious behavior or face the consequences of your bad decisions. If you continue your destructive efforts to tear down America, you may find yourselves man and women alike, without a country, stripped of citizenship, and deported. I think that is a punishment far more fitting than imprisonment! Time is short. Make your choices now.

Here is a copy of the new bill for interested people. Enjoy your laugh. I did!

From Thomas, here is a printable copy of H.R. 2411:

HR 2411 IH
112th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 2411

To provide for an employee election on Form W-4 to have amounts deducted and withheld from wages to be used to reduce the public debt.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 6, 2011

Mr. CRAWFORD (for himself, Mr. TIBERI, Mr. FINCHER, Mr. LANDRY, Mr. DENHAM, Mr. DOLD, Mr. FLORES, Mr. GRIFFIN of Arkansas, Mr. AUSTIN SCOTT of Georgia, Mr. HUIZENGA of Michigan, Mr. PALAZZO, and Mr. GUINTA) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means

A BILL

To provide for an employee election on Form W-4 to have amounts deducted and withheld from wages to be used to reduce the public debt.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Reduce America’s Debt Now Act of 2011′.

SEC. 2. VOLUNTARY WITHHOLDING FROM PAYROLL FOR REDUCTION OF THE PUBLIC DEBT.

(a) In General- An employee may elect for an employer to deduct and withhold upon the payment of wages by such employer amounts to be used to reduce the public debt.

(b) Requirement of Withholding- Every employer making payment of wages shall deduct and withhold upon such wages any amounts so elected, and shall pay such amounts over to the Secretary of the Treasury at such times and in such manner as the Secretary shall by regulation prescribe.

(c) Transfers to Account To Reduce Public Debt- The Secretary shall, not less frequently than monthly, transfer to the special account established by section 3113(d) of title 31, United States Code, amounts equal to the amounts paid over under subsection (b).

(d) Definitions and Special Rules- For purposes of this section–

(1) WAGES, EMPLOYEE, ETC- The terms `wages’, `employee’, and `employer’ shall have the respective meanings given such terms under section 3401(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.

(2) AMOUNTS NOT DEDUCTIBLE- Notwithstanding section 170(c)(1) of such Code, no deduction shall be allowed for any amount deducted and withheld from wages under subsection (a).

(3) ELECTION TO BE INCLUDED ON WITHHOLDING EXEMPTION CERTIFICATE- Not later December 31, 2011, the Secretary of the Treasury shall modify withholding exemption certificates (described in section 3402(f)(2) of such Code) to include the election under subsection (a). The Secretary shall include on such certificates a reasonably conspicuous statement that any amounts deducted and withheld from wages under subsection (a) are not deductible as charitable contributions for Federal income tax purposes.

(e) Effective Date- This section shall apply to remuneration paid after December 31, 2011.

SEC. 3. EXCLUSION OF PUBLIC DEBT WITHHOLDING FROM WAGES.

(a) Social Security Taxes-

(1) AMENDMENT TO 1986 CODE- Subsection (a) of section 3121 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking `or’ at the end of paragraph (22), by striking the period at the end of paragraph (23) and inserting `; or’, and by inserting after paragraph (23) the following new paragraph:

`(24) any amount deducted and withheld pursuant to an election under section 2 of the Reduce America’s Debt Now Act of 2011.’.

(2) AMENDMENT TO SOCIAL SECURITY ACT- Section 209(a) of the Social Security Act is amended by striking `or’ at the end of paragraph (19), by striking the period at the end of paragraph (20) and inserting `; or’, and by inserting after paragraph (20) the following new paragraph:

`(21) Any amount deducted and withheld pursuant to an election under section 2 of the Reduce America’s Debt Now Act of 2011.’.

(b) Unemployment Taxes- Subsection (b) of section 3306 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking `or’ at the end of paragraph (19), by striking the period at the end of paragraph (20) and inserting `; or’, and by inserting after paragraph (20) the following new paragraph:

`(21) any amount deducted and withheld pursuant to an election under section 2 of the Reduce America’s Debt Now Act of 2011.’.

(c) Wage Withholding- Subsection (a) of section 3401 of such Code is amended by striking `or’ at the end of paragraph (22), by striking the period at the end of paragraph (23) and inserting `; or’, and by inserting after paragraph (23) the following new paragraph:

`(24) any amount deducted and withheld pursuant to an election under section 2 of the Reduce America’s Debt Now Act of 2011.’.

(d) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall apply to remuneration made after December 31, 2011.

END

Sponsor: Rep Crawford, Eric A. “Rick” [AR-1] (introduced 7/6/2011)
COSPONSORS(12), ALPHABETICAL
Rep Denham, Jeff [CA-19] – 7/6/2011
Rep Dold, Robert J. [IL-10] – 7/6/2011
Rep Fincher, Stephen Lee [TN-8] – 7/6/2011
Rep Flores, Bill [TX-17] – 7/6/2011
Rep Griffin, Tim [AR-2] – 7/6/2011
Rep Guinta, Frank C. [NH-1] – 7/6/2011
Rep Huizenga, Bill [MI-2] – 7/6/2011
Rep Landry, Jeffrey M. [LA-3] – 7/6/2011
Rep Noem, Kristi L. [SD] – 7/8/2011
Rep Palazzo, Steven M. [MS-4] – 7/6/2011
Rep Scott, Austin [GA-8] – 7/6/2011
Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] – 7/6/2011

[Congressional Record Volume 157, Number 99 (Wednesday, July 6, 2011)]
[House]
[Page H4672]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Printing Office [www.gpo.gov]

By Mr. CRAWFORD:
H.R. 2411.
Congress has the power to enact this legislation pursuant to the following:
Congress has the power to enact this legislation pursuant to the enumerated powers listed in Article I, Section 8, which include the power to “lay and collect taxes, duties, imports, and excises, to pay the debts. . .”.

Hmm?? This doesn’t look temporary!

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2 Responses to “The Government wants You and Me to Voluntarily Pay for Their Irresponsible Spending!”

  1. Freedom, by the way said

    OH Boy! A sucker slush fund with no strings attached! Unbelievable.

  2. KUDOS for bringing this to the fore….KUDOS for taking the time to bring this to the fore. KUDOS to you and your dedicated family. I just loved your words and the appealing way that you presented.
    Best regards to all concerned,

    Hans

    http://capecoralblogger.wordpress.com

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